Donella Meadows on sustainable system design. When she was talking about her life-plan in a 22 people-many hectare-state of the art commune, it brought us very close, heart to heart. One could nearly feel the life-force streaming from this woman, academic career & woman of the new earth at the same time. Her ideas were central to Gregory Bateson’s inspiring “steps to an ecology of mind” book that brought Frank the intellectual underpinning of permaculture design.